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Forney man erupts at Spellman Amphitheater meeting, claims his freedom of speech violated Featured

On August 21, 2012, the Forney City Council held their regularly scheduled meeting at the Mick Spellman Amphitheater. Much of the night was filled with discussion and comments regarding the sale of beer and wine at the amphitheater. However, the people that were not present for the August 7th council meeting were left wondering what Forney citizen John Carr was referencing when he accused Forney City Manager Brian Brooks of defiling his name during the Open Forum/Citizen Comment.

John Carr began his alloted three minutes to address the council in the Open Forum/Citizen Comments section of the August 21st meeting by saying Brian Brooks has defiled his name and misquoted him. He encouraged everyone to listen to the tape of the recordings from the August 7th meeting. During that meeting, John Carr spoke of the contractor the City of F­orney has been using to help research different possibilities of acts, contract terms, and the different aspect involved in the planning of events at the Spellman Amphitheater. He ended saying, "Freedom isn't free in Forney."

It all began on August 7th during the regularly scheduled Forney City Council Meeting. John Carr, along with several other people, stood up in opposition of the sale of beer and wine at the Spellman Amphitheater. The Forney Post on August 9th quotes Carr as saying:

“I want to point out that in your hurry to approve this proposal and hire a promotions company someone has not done their homework and mistakes are being made. Look a little closer at the promotion group and you will discover that someone on your staff did not do their job with the diligence due or they would have discovered that the PM Entertainment Group that your considering was recently required to bid on a contract they had had with the Oklahoma City Council for five years.  They will discover that the Oklahoma City Council had trouble with them because they were over serving alcohol at events. It was published in the Oklahoma papers . It wasn't that hard to discover.

The actual recording, in pertinent part, from the night's events reveals, the following:

“[John Carr states his name and address for record] I don't feel good about what's going on with the amphitheater and ya'll know why, I'm not going to break that up. The people that you've been looking at to run the venues, the main contractor, probably need to do a little more due diligence. They have lost their bid to the City of Oklahoma City because of poor conduct on their part, they have allowed too much alcohol. They, the City of Oklahoma City has had a lot of trouble keeping them in line, so for the first time in 5 years they cannot get it without a bid and they lost that bid to somebody with no experience. So in the hurry to get this done there are mistakes being made in the process that need to be, that somebody needs to put their brakes on and do their due diligence and don't just make it about the alcohol. Make sure that when you get a promoter in that it isn't just about alcohol, that it's about whether or not they are qualified, what's their track record, are they going to bring in the kind of people that we want in our community or whatever that means. Uhm you know because if you do decide to go with a coordinator I think that's a good idea, we don't want one that's been essentially kicked out of a city of a million people. I personally don't, but somebody didn't do their due diligence on that.”

After the August 7th City Council meeting, several council members asked City Manager Brian Brooks to explain the information presented to them by John Carr during the Open Forum/Citizen Comment portion of the meeting. An internal memo sent on Monday, August 13, 2012, at 5:02 p.m., by Brian Brooks to the Forney City Council, city attorney, city engineer, and the Forney Police and Fire Chiefs details the information that was gathered:

“On Tuesday Night, John Carr spoke in Citizens’ Comments regarding the reputation of PM Group. First and foremost, the City does not have a contract with any company. We have spoken at length with PM Group, and they have provided the City with advice and information with regard to the amphitheater. Second, the information stated by Mr. Carr was completely false. He stated that PM Group was dismissed by the Zoo Amphitheater for poor performance and “overselling” alcohol. There was no information to support this fact online. Moreover, I personally spoke with the City Manager of Oklahoma City, Jim Couch, about PM Group (known as FM Group in Oklahoma) and their performance. He stated that the Zoo Amphitheater Board chose a different contractor simply because they wanted different kind of acts. When asked specifically about overselling alcohol or any issues with safety and security, Mr. Couch stated that they had no issues with PM Group. Whether Mr. Carr intentionally misstated information or not, I have been informed that he may be subject to a defamation suit for his public comments.”

brianbrooksAccording to Carr, the PM Group, through Forney's Guest and Gray Attorney's Office, has served a Cease and Desist order on him for his remarks in open public pertaining to the character of the PM Group. John Carr feels Brian should have contacted him first to clarify his remarks in the open meeting on August 7th. But Brian Brooks said he didn't need to, that he had made himself very clear. “[Carr] said we didn't do our diligence but what he accused me of is exactly what I did, I went back to do my due diligence. I read through the websites and didn't see anything there, I went through and looked through all the contracts, I contacted the only contact I had with the company, which was Scott Gray.” He went on to mention that he also contacted Jim Couch, City Manager of Oklahoma City, for more information as referenced above in his internal memo. 

All of the above events led to John Carr's comments on August 21st at the City Council meeting. With no evidence to substantiate any wrongdoing on the part of PM Group, Carr made unsubstantiated statements that the PM Group felt may be deemed libelous.

The MP3 file below is the recording from the August 7th meeting.
Last modified on Monday, 27 August 2012 18:03
Mathew Richards

Mathew Richards

Mathew Richards is a multi-media journalist covering the latest and breaking news in Forney, Texas. Mathew has an IT background with videography and live video broadcasting experience.  Feel free to contact him with any comments or leads at the e-mail address provided below.

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8 comments

  • Comment Link Mathew Richards
    Mathew Richards Tuesday, 28 August 2012 10:42
    One of the many articles we researched...They better watch out for Longtimer though, he'll bust them for the words "tempers flare" :) haha
  • Comment Link Debbie Stuart
    Debbie Stuart Tuesday, 28 August 2012 10:12
    Apparently there were some hard parting words between the PM Group and the Oklahoma City group - at least according to this news article - though it doesn't really say why they changed vendors in this article. Kind of interesting though.

    http://kfor.com/2012/07/01/zoo-amphitheater-future-decided-at-meeting/
  • Comment Link Sherri Thornhill
    Sherri Thornhill Monday, 27 August 2012 20:21
    The eruption Andy, was at the Spellman at the Aug 21st meeting--not the Aug 7th meeting. So that is not the audio you listened to. Eruption was a tame word for what happened Aug 21. Pointing out what was quoted in the Post for the Aug 7th meeting, which led to the misunderstanding between Mr. Carr and Brian Brooks, was essential to getting to the bottom of why the eruption happened.
  • Comment Link Andy Updike
    Andy Updike Monday, 27 August 2012 20:14
    "Forney Man Erupts" huh? I didn't hear any 'erupt' on the attached audio file?

    Be careful of your criticism of the Post.....your headlines may be putting into that same trap as well.
  • Comment Link Michele Hawthorne
    Michele Hawthorne Monday, 27 August 2012 16:25
    I'm just curious exactly which meetings the Post is going to, because they keep publishing the wrong facts.
  • Comment Link Cheryl
    Cheryl Monday, 27 August 2012 15:13
    Yes! Thanks! Totally clear now.
  • Comment Link Mathew Richards
    Mathew Richards Monday, 27 August 2012 14:34
    The contact that the City Manager's office has on file is Scott Gray, the person that has been doing most of the discussions with PM Group has been the Parks Dept. The advice and information is being sent through Richard Curry who then presents it to the City Council. -Hope that clarifies...
  • Comment Link Cheryl
    Cheryl Monday, 27 August 2012 13:56
    I don't understand something;
    How did Mr.Brooks say "I contacted the only contact I had with the company, which was Scott Gray." .. (wherever he reportedly stated that),
    when in the internal memo Mr.Brooks said "We have spoken at length with PM Group, and they have provided the City with advice and information....."
    Maybe the two statements are not in sequence in the time-line. They seem to conflict.
    Maybe "We" is not 'him'.. or "the company" is not PM Group.
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